From Python to PHP - Which framework

[Sayth Renshaw]

Hi

looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.

Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.

I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.

This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.

But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.

For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Sayth

[Ashley Sheridan]

I can second Laravel, been using it a lot lately. It's easy enough to get installed on any OS, and you can build on it pretty rapidly.

The documentation is ok, but it does make a few leaps in logic which aren't obvious without reading the posts on the forums

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

Thanks,
Ash

[Bastien Koert]

laravel or yii would be my choices


On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Ashley Sheridan

Post by Ashley Sheridan
I can second Laravel, been using it a lot lately. It's easy enough to get
installed on any OS, and you can build on it pretty rapidly.
The documentation is ok, but it does make a few leaps in logic which
aren't obvious without reading the posts on the forums

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

Thanks,
Ash

[Anthony Wlodarski]

I have become quite comfortable with Yii. It uses a Active Record pattern
for the ORM layer so you can get to the data easily. There's a wide array
of out of the box components to be configured with it. The way they worked
out their version of MVC is pretty good and I've had much success with it.
Give it a try, takes all of five minutes to setup a sandbox.

Post by Bastien Koert
laravel or yii would be my choices
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Ashley Sheridan

Post by Ashley Sheridan
I can second Laravel, been using it a lot lately. It's easy enough to get
installed on any OS, and you can build on it pretty rapidly.
The documentation is ok, but it does make a few leaps in logic which
aren't obvious without reading the posts on the forums
On 14 March 2014 23:42:35 GMT+00:00, Sayth Renshaw <

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

Thanks,
Ash

--
Bastien
Cat, the other other white meat

[Tsvetan Nikolov]

Generally, all framework are nice. If I have to advise you on a framework I
would go for Yii and not think twice. To me this is the most extendible
framework. Community is really helpful and docs are nice. But as I said
even if you pick L4 you should be ok.

Post by Anthony Wlodarski
I have become quite comfortable with Yii. It uses a Active Record pattern
for the ORM layer so you can get to the data easily. There's a wide array
of out of the box components to be configured with it. The way they worked
out their version of MVC is pretty good and I've had much success with it.
Give it a try, takes all of five minutes to setup a sandbox.

Post by Bastien Koert
laravel or yii would be my choices
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Ashley Sheridan

Post by Ashley Sheridan
I can second Laravel, been using it a lot lately. It's easy enough to

get

Post by Bastien Koert

Post by Ashley Sheridan
installed on any OS, and you can build on it pretty rapidly.
The documentation is ok, but it does make a few leaps in logic which
aren't obvious without reading the posts on the forums
On 14 March 2014 23:42:35 GMT+00:00, Sayth Renshaw <

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

Thanks,
Ash

--
Bastien
Cat, the other other white meat

--
Anthony W.

[Ravi Gehlot]

Hello Sayth,

I worked on Laravel 3 for 6 months. I have been on Laravel 4 for just
about a few months. The API is fantastically well documented, the
framework is insanely easy to use. I would strongly advise you to
start with Laravel.

Best of luck,
Ravi.

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app which
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is more
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was solid
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

[Sayth Renshaw]

So I am hearing a lot of love for lavarel. Where does symfony2 sit, since
it's the base of a lot of Drupal?

Sayth

Post by Ravi Gehlot
Hello Sayth,
I worked on Laravel 3 for 6 months. I have been on Laravel 4 for just
about a few months. The API is fantastically well documented, the
framework is insanely easy to use. I would strongly advise you to
start with Laravel.
Best of luck,
Ravi.

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app

which

Post by Sayth Renshaw
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is

more

Post by Sayth Renshaw
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was

solid

Post by Sayth Renshaw
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth

[Ravi Gehlot]

Hello Sayth,

Laravel is a great product! There is no doubt of that. Once you start
working with it, you will not only get your work done faster but you
will also have fun while doing it. The API is awesomely well
documented. I have not yet seen anything that well documented. The
main website laravel.com can get you started somewhat quickly. It will
help if you already have experience working with RESTful APIs.
Laravel.com can be used as a quick guidance to get you going but it is
not enough to help you build an application if you don't have any API
and Object Oriented experience.

Laravel is based on Symfony 2. In my opinion, "Laravel is an enhanced
Symfony 2 made easy".

Also, I would like to point it out that Symfony 2 is not based off of
Drupal. It is the other way around. Drupal 8 is built on top of
Symfony 2 like Laravel is.

Best,
Ravi.

Post by Sayth Renshaw
So I am hearing a lot of love for lavarel. Where does symfony2 sit, since
it's the base of a lot of Drupal?
Sayth

Post by Ravi Gehlot
Hello Sayth,
I worked on Laravel 3 for 6 months. I have been on Laravel 4 for just
about a few months. The API is fantastically well documented, the
framework is insanely easy to use. I would strongly advise you to
start with Laravel.
Best of luck,
Ravi.

Post by Sayth Renshaw
Hi
looking for advice. I have been using python django and I wanting to get
into PHP for my next project and adventure.
Trying to locate a good framework in PHP that I can use for a PHP app

which

Post by Sayth Renshaw
will be datacentric with data visualization, and display and use
interactive graphs for the front end.
I would in general prefer a more 'implicit' framework, but tooling is

more

Post by Sayth Renshaw
important. I do have a lnux box but would prefer if the framework was

solid

Post by Sayth Renshaw
and reliable and fairly easily installed and maintainable on windows.
This sitepoint article
http://www.sitepoint.com/best-php-frameworks-2014/seems to suggest
Lavarel and Phalcon.
But is this correct? Yii scored high as well. I notice in the install
instructions Lavarel installation instructions are for Linux, so this may
void its usability on Windows.
For a new PHP person what is a good solid path with good tooling so I can
get my PHP learning done smoothly and be productive in the process.
Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Sayth